Well I bit the bullet!

I just purchased a pair of Fox 2.0 Air shocks part number 980-02-013A. Got a great deal for a pair only $380 bucks shipped!

These shocks have a 4" travel and are supposedly 15.53" eye to eye with a collapsed length of 11.53 inches.

As soon as I get them, I will post better pictures and what hardware it takes to install them. The travel limitations for the FL350 are just a hare over 15.25" so we will see if we need to have a little off the fat part of the axle yoke to keep the camber at zero.

Rand

Sweet
Cant wait to see how that's going to work

are you mounting them in the factory location or doing what Dave-Co did

These are considerably cheaper than works shocks and are fully adjustable by nitrogen and valving.

I already own a set of Works shocks but I broke one and don't want to be a slave to works only or pay the price of 200 bucks to get it repaired. Best pricing I have seen for works is just over 500 bucks. These saved me at least 130 bucks at a price of 380.

Rand

These will mount in the factory mount location. The only difference is going to be the size of the mounting hardware. Not all of us have tools such as welders and plasma cutters. Looking for something that the average Joe can install easily.

Rand

these will bolt on and you will just need to adjust the rear camber link a little and you will love them

Yeah Shoub, I should be able to shave just a hair from the real thick part of the yoke and should be able to get to zero camber. I have already managed to mount a set of 15.5 inch shocks to my Ody by just adjusting the camber slightly. Where I plan on shaving the yoke is in the very heavy part of the outboard yoke. Shouldn't have to take out more than about .050" to get to zero camber.

You are the reason I decided to buy these. I saw you sold a pair to Nuke Em. I just didn't get to them fast enough and Gary snagged them before I did! He is planning to use them on his beast.

Rand

please post results! my 570 ody has works that are about shot. id love to install the fox shocks!

They are going to be very lineball in length RandiestMan.
From memory when I had my fleet of Odys,the eye CC was 390mm,your Foxs are at 394.46mm.
Nearly 5mm too long.also don't forget the drop down weight when launching.
When you install them,and do the driveshaft yoke rotational bind check,I would also be loading up with some weight to really simulate off road stretch so to speak.

You also need to factor in some safety margin for now/future heim joint wear,which will add to your marginal CC dimension.

Baz I've done this already with a pair that are 393mm (15.5 inches). I had a slight bit of negative camber but it would of worked. I never used the aforementioned shocks because they do not have a heim joint in them.

I also had the idea that since the mounting eye of the shock is approx 13mm (1/2 inch) and the mounting bolt hole is slightly larger, I was thinking about using some kind of shim within the mounting hole in the frame of the ody which would mount the shock a little higher in the upper mount to try and correct for the shock being as long as it is.

I'll have to check the ID of the upper mounting hole in the ody frame to see what kind of hardware I'll have to use once I get them.

Randiestman

Those shocks don't have a ball on each end like a hiem joint does, my FOX Air's do you can see them in the pics, when new they are stiff as hell and don't really look like they move stick a bolt in them and try to rotate.

After some use they losen up

http://www.pilotodyssey.com/FOX.htm

The shocks I ordered supposedly come with.....

Mounting:
Lined, heat-treated, alloy steel spherical bearings 1/2" bolt x 1 1/4" wide.

We'll see what I get, once the get here. If they're not spherical (heim type) then they're are available for purchase.

The previous shocks I was referencing that I didn't use had the traditional rubber mounts with the metal sleeve in them both top and bottom. It's a shame too because they're cheap enough to be one season use "disposable".

Rand

that's what they should have. both my fr and rear fox on my pilot have those heim type

I used the Works bolt and bushings for the bottom of the shocks I got from Rusty(thanks again!). I used the stock upper shock bolt but had to had a spacer washer to bring the shock body away from the frame a bit. The pressure was too low and it squatted with no rebound when riding. Took them in for a fresh higher charge. $40 to have done. I had them set to 275 lbs, and feel right when hanging/bouncing on the back of the frame but have not ridden it yet...hunting season!

I WILL be setting myself up with a recharging shocks setup. Maybe I can give back to the pilot/odyssey community. I still want to be able and learn to rebuild shocks too(I am kind of hard on shocks n axles!!) lol

Gary

Gary, what did you use to mount the top of the shock?

Rand

I used the stock shock bolt and a thick washer to keep the shock body from hitting the frame. I took some pictures when I did it...I will post some for you Rand.

So your top mount is the same size as the stock Ody and the bottom is 1/2"?

Mine on both ends are supposedly 1/2".

Rand

Sorry so long getting pics up...

We know your a busy man.

So how you like them so far?

are those the same shock gary as rand bought or are they a bit different. i am going to need something for the fl450

Not positive they are the same but sure look the same. Valving could be different of course and oil viscosity could also be different. Something that catches my eye right away is the HUGE shaft compared to works shocks. OK Baz, insert the shaft size joke here! Lmao. As many works shafts I have bent and broke, really hope these will hold up better.I still need to design limiting straps that work correctly. Last attempt was another failure....grrrrr. lol

Sorry, still have not ridden so no testing info avail. Kinda like the Obama care website??? Lol. I do not know what pressure they originally had but 175 feels much closer to right with my 185-190lb ass in there.

i don't think i will need limiting straps on the 450 as the axles i believe are sitting lower than where they sit in the gear box. i might have to take a dirty measurement and compare, but these shocks i think will be perfect and the price is so much better than works

These are the same shocks as what Gary has but again valving is a guess and may be different.

I'm having to chase down inserts to place into the top shock mount to take up the difference between the two different shock mounting bolt sizes. The Fox top Heim (yes it's a heim) eyelet is .500" and the factory OD of the factory mounting hole is .595".

Rand

so essentially i guy could order these, tell them the weight of the machine and myself. so they could valve and nitrogen fill accordingly and then should work then..

can you just call works to get the bushing inserts

No.

These particular shocks are an off the shelf universal fitment. They are not designed to be used on the FL350 so Fox does not have base settings to go by. Myself and Nuke Em are playing Giunea Pigs as far as usage.

Remember, these shocks are 15.5 inches spacing eye to eye as compared to the 15.25 of the Showa or Works shocks so modifications for usage will be required. As far as the ride goes, these are Air shocks so the ride is totally adjustable. They come from the factory at 200 psi. The stacks inside the shocks are changeable so you can adjust rebound and dampening.

The bottom mounting is going to require the works bottom mounting system which consists of a bolt and spacers to take up the difference between the stock bolt v/s the 1/2 inch Fox eyelet.

Be patient I will let you know what is required for mounting and how well they work.

Rand