So over the winter I purchase a Buggy Built by Who don't know .I do know it was worked on by two people at least. Whoever built the main chassis and rear suspension knew what they were doing judging by the quality of the workmenship. The front end is a much well its a nightmare. I've repaired the front end and am now looking for a supplier for new shocks for it. Any suggestions on places to buy.I would like to find some Fox airs or equivelent. I'm picking it up from sand blasters tonight so I can go over all the welds to make sure I did not miss any crappy ones.

Bill, I want some test drive feedback!

In what way is the front end poor? Workmanship or geometry?

A little of both all the new tubing is to replace what was cut out by someone. Like I said who ever built it did not do the repair work on it .Someone replaced the front end with one off a Suzuki quad runner. While it works its not the best. My guess it was wrecked and was repaired with what was handy.

Bill when is the trailer queen gonna be ready for some ridin? Did you ever get any more info about ridin in wisc on the trails?

Looks like someone added more tubing and bracing, where did you get that pic who added the tubes?

I remember when this car was built it was a budget build to use up the rest of the materials he had for building them genesis cars then the jigs bender and the rest of the brackets was sold to LIEwire the 'buggy jig collector' he was going to start building these cars and selling same with the Drakart formula cross he bought the jigs and rights to build that car and sell lmao.

Being a budget build the car was built cheap and sold sold cheap the transmission in the car at the time cost over 2000.00 new.

At the time it was built if it was built to the exact genesis design and specs would have had to ask at least 10k for it and today it would be a 6500 car.

Going by memory the front suspension had 1" more travel than a stock Pilot forget the travel on the rear you will have to measure but pretty sure its more than a stock Pilot also.

Think that Engine makes 60-65 hp get the numbers off the tag and search the web to find out for sure.

don't be a rookie take it out run the shit out of it under all conditions before you start making changes based on looks or feelings unless your looking for a project, seen way too many guys turn working ATVs into projects and when they got done gained nothing they were lucky to keep up with the rest of the group

I added the tubes also pulled the frame back to straight. I built sprint cars in my youth and am well versed in Solid works auto cad.The bracing was needed because the frame was bending because of the loads being applied.Some of it replaced what was cut out some was to stiffen the chassis . All of this was imputed into solid works. Two people worked on this car.One was good one not so the first person welded with a tig most likely This Don guy.Then someone cut off the front suspension and installed the Quad runner.Who ever built the car did not install that. The welds are night and day different. The motors a type 462 467cc but at one time had a 440 rave motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) ((Internal Combustion Engine?)) in it. While at one time it may have been built to specs someone changed it. Yes this is a project and most likely I'll build a new chassis next winter.Right now building adjustability into the front end should let me take out some of the oversteer it has now.

Hoser what is the suspension travel on a pilot ?

The rear suspension looks good but the front needs way more travel. Looks like an odyssey right now

A little over 8 inches on the front and 11 3/4 on the rear. The biggest problem is the caster and camber only 2 degrees on caster and 1 degree positive on camber. I would like to see more like 5 or 6 positive in caster and 2 or 3 negative in camber.

But how does it drive?

looks good, what Engine did you end up using?