Well now it's time to pressure test the head
See just how many leaks
Hopefully not many
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| Author: | B S [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Well now it's time to pressure test the head See just how many leaks Hopefully not many |
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| Author: | hoser [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
canadian oddy wrote: Well she is done. God is she ugly. I wiped all my DNA off. She ain't mine. But I guess even ugly girls have their uses. Also notice the first picture. There are two burn marks on the head gasket. I did this while welding. Ground wasn't very good. lucky for me no damage underneath and lucky head gasket was still stuck on. Moral of the story --- be careful when welding. Looks good to me run it and enjoy. |
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| Author: | birvin [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
It looks good, anybody looking to close is probably wanting to steal it or try and get ideas for one they want to make. What pump are you using? and how bad did it warp? Good Job. |
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| Author: | DMoneyAllstar [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Dang, that does look nice! And so does the price!! That was with a MIG, right? |
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| Author: | rarerat [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Awesome job!! |
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| Author: | bullnerd [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Did you ground right to the head or through the table? |
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| Author: | DMoneyAllstar [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
What diameter is that big tube? |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
birvin wrote: It looks good, anybody looking to close is probably wanting to steal it or try and get ideas for one they want to make. What pump are you using? and how bad did it warp? Good Job. I will try to answer all the questions here: Tube is 6'' with 3/8th wall. You can get it at a local machine shop. I was using 4043 alum wire .030 size. 100% argon at 60gph. Short stick out. Yes it was with mig. I haven't check for warpage yet. Will do it in a couple of hours from now. Will post. I usually put the clamp on the piece but for got and it grounded through gasket. No damage. Not sure what kind of pump. That's to far away right now. Not sure about the rad size either. Mayb go to wrecking yard. Do you guys think a large transmission cooler would work??? |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
B S wrote: Well now it's time to pressure test the head See just how many leaks Hopefully not many Pressure testing will be a big job. I need to find a way to plug all the head bolt holes first because they are inside. |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:56 pm ] |
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DMoneyAllstar wrote: Dang, that does look nice! And so does the price!! That was with a MIG, right? It cost me about $40 maybe $50 buks for this job. |
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| Author: | B S [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
canadian oddy wrote: birvin wrote: It looks good, anybody looking to close is probably wanting to steal it or try and get ideas for one they want to make. What pump are you using? and how bad did it warp? Good Job. I will try to answer all the questions here: Tube is 6'' with 3/8th wall. You can get it at a local machine shop. I was using 4043 alum wire .030 size. 100% argon at 60gph. Short stick out. Yes it was with mig. I haven't check for warpage yet. Will do it in a couple of hours from now. Will post. I usually put the clamp on the piece but for got and it grounded through gasket. No damage. Not sure what kind of pump. That's to far away right now. Not sure about the rad size either. Mayb go to wrecking yard. Do you guys think a large transmission cooler would work??? Get a banshee or a yfz 450 radatior Bouth are cheap Last one I bought I paid $35 shipped with a fan |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
B S wrote: canadian oddy wrote: birvin wrote: It looks good, anybody looking to close is probably wanting to steal it or try and get ideas for one they want to make. What pump are you using? and how bad did it warp? Good Job. I will try to answer all the questions here: Tube is 6'' with 3/8th wall. You can get it at a local machine shop. I was using 4043 alum wire .030 size. 100% argon at 60gph. Short stick out. Yes it was with mig. I haven't check for warpage yet. Will do it in a couple of hours from now. Will post. I usually put the clamp on the piece but for got and it grounded through gasket. No damage. Not sure what kind of pump. That's to far away right now. Not sure about the rad size either. Mayb go to wrecking yard. Do you guys think a large transmission cooler would work??? Get a banshee or a yfz 450 radatior Bouth are cheap Last one I bought I paid $35 shipped with a fan BAHAAA. I live in Canada. Nothin in this fn country is under $100 PLUS shipping. |
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| Author: | fully [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:12 pm ] |
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i just bought a civic aluminum rad and 10" fan for $100 shipped, it was on ebay from a guy in calgary. the rad is big yes. but i will never have a cooling problem..problably don't need the fan lol |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:52 pm ] |
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Do you guys think a large transmission cooler will work?? |
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| Author: | B S [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:16 pm ] |
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canadian oddy wrote: Do you guys think a large transmission cooler will work?? not sure Here it's in canada http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1992-2000-Honda- ... mtr&_uhb=1 Pretty sure this is the one |
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| Author: | hoser [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:29 pm ] |
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http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_sacat=0& ... ior&_rdc=1 http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw=yfz ... r&_sacat=0 http://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_odkw=TRX ... r&_sacat=0 |
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| Author: | fully [ Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Luckypiggy was the seller but the one I bought had 28mm hose ends |
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| Author: | nitrosport_5 [ Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:29 pm ] |
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fully wrote: Luckypiggy was the seller but the one I bought had 28mm hose ends http://m.ebay.ca/itm/200976674973?nav=SEARCH&sbk=1 |
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| Author: | DMoneyAllstar [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:48 pm ] |
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How did this converted head turn out anyways?? |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
I am still in the middle of the rebuild. Got the seals from the UK and I am waiting for the bosch pumps I ordered. I will post results when I get this thing running. I am not in a hurry cause it is winter here right now and fn cold for the west coast of Canada (-16) but no snow. We gona have water problems in the interior of the province is we don't get any snow soon. |
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| Author: | rwake [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:38 pm ] |
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Between awhile any updates? |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:51 pm ] |
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rwake wrote: Between awhile any updates? Both of my machines have been running for a while now. What do you want to know.? Will answer your questions later tonight when I get home from work around 7:30pm west coast time. I am on coffee break and on my phone. Hate doing it this way. |
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| Author: | rwake [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: making an fl350 air cool to water cooled head |
Yes how'd your design work and anything you'd change and do differently? How much you figure it costed to do it and any noticeable difference with performance/lower temp |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:23 pm ] |
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rwake wrote: Yes how'd your design work and anything you'd change and do differently? How much you figure it costed to do it and any noticeable difference with performance/lower temp Lets take these one at a time: 1) how'd your design work: All I can say is awesome. I water cooled the cylinder as well and there is a thread here on the site about it. The temp right now never goes over 110'F so I blocked off half the rad with some thin plastic material. Temp now 140'F and we are ok with that. We use a radiator from a Honda civic car. Note also that it is now cooler here in Canada as it is October. 2) would you change or do anything differently?: No it works great. 3) Cost: Well the head cost probably about $100 cylinder less maybe $50. These are rough guesses because the aluminum was cheap but I had to buy another welder and spool gun as well as argon gas. You be the judge on that but I am happy as I now can weld aluminum. 4) performance: Well all I can say is last week Friday we did a speed test and my brothers machine hit 64 mph. That's goddamn fast up in the mountains on a logging road and it can be hundreds of feet down to a river bed. Don't screw up. Pics on the thread "This is where we ride". On a side note I would like to add that I had a hell of time to make my brothers machine run. Turns out there were several issues but the real one was the fuel pump. It delivered just enough to make run at half throttle then run out as soon as you went to full throttle and poofkaboom. (9x's). |
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| Author: | canadian oddy [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:55 pm ] | |||
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This is what happens when a fuel pump delivers fuel but not enough to run full throttle. You can jet till the cows come home and you ain't gona get there. One full throttle pass and booooooooom, rebuild time. Any other questions ??
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