Putting a bigger motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) in my fl350 .I'm not shure how the transmition is gonna
Hold up any advice .
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:57 pm ] | ||
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Putting a bigger motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) in my fl350 .I'm not shure how the transmition is gonna Hold up any advice .
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| Author: | hoser [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
More detail pics please.. Where are you from? WHY? Everybody has a reason/story for the Engine swaps whats yours 
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 5:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
I just bought two fl350 one is gonna be stock just sent the jug out to get bored anyhow didn't have another stock fl350 so might as well tinker with the frame . Had a 98 xc700 suspension was shot hood was broke so I took the good Engine out . Claims of 120hp got me excited for the frame that takes around 40hp stock just like big engines in small frames I guess . |
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| Author: | hoser [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: I just bought two fl350 one is gonna be stock just sent the jug out to get bored anyhow didn't have another stock fl350 so might as well tinker with the frame . Had a 98 xc700 suspension was shot hood was broke so I took the good Engine out . Claims of 120hp got me excited for the frame that takes around 40hp stock just like big engines in small frames I guess . Yeah that's how it all starts power to weight ratio should be fun, don't forget to make sure your brakes (all 4 wheels) are in great condition you will need them, the first thing I noticed when I took my 440 Pilot for a ride was "I need more brakes" you build speed so much easier and faster with all the new found power, ask other Engine swappers 
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| Author: | go oddy [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: I just bought two fl350 one is gonna be stock just sent the jug out to get bored anyhow didn't have another stock fl350 so might as well tinker with the frame . Had a 98 xc700 suspension was shot hood was broke so I took the good Engine out . Claims of 120hp got me excited for the frame that takes around 40hp stock just like big engines in small frames I guess . Just be careful, I would advise rolling on the throttle. I broke a VW type I output shaft from a similar Engine setup and now have upgraded to type II Regards |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
What do I need to upgrade my axles that would also be a nessasary upgrade that I need to do |
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| Author: | nitrosport_5 [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: What do I need to upgrade my axles that would also be a nessasary upgrade that I need to do Have any more Engine mount pictures. I don't know what is up with that first picture but its playing tricks with my mind thinking what you did. Engine behind the trans? that Engine will never see the 120 HP with the exhaust the way it is. 2 strokes need the pipe to make all of the claimed power. Some more than others. Only way to make the ody reliably hold up to that much power without having to baby it is to put in an entire different transmission/axles. |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
I did rotate the transmission forward and remake the mounts I was going to put a jackshaft in it like a sled but didn't want to lose reverse . no pics as of now I work out of town will post more pics next weekend |
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| Author: | B S [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
put the trans back modify the stock chamber pipe and make the exhaust work that way can you take a photo of the underside of the Engine? i want to see what the bolt pattern is like |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
What's wrong with the transmission I feel the gears are still gonna rotate inside the cases am I mistaken or what other problems do you forsee |
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| Author: | go oddy [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
B S wrote: put the trans back modify the stock chamber pipe and make the exhaust work that way can you take a photo of the underside of the Engine? i want to see what the bolt pattern is like This is correct. That exhaust will never let you see that engines potential. You need the 2 stroke pipe... Regards |
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| Author: | nitrosport_5 [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: What's wrong with the transmission I feel the gears are still gonna rotate inside the cases am I mistaken or what other problems do you forsee I don't think there is a problem with the way the transmission is sitting as far as operation goes, but i think it would be much easier and cleaner job if you put the Engine back in the stock location, that way you can use the 2 stroke pipe and don't have the carbs sticking out the rear of the frame. Im guessing its going to be a wheelieing sum bitch and with your carbs sticking out the back you are going to knock them off sometime. |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
Ok see ur worrie now was planning a rear bumper to cover the carbs and cone filters .the wheelie problem I planed to solve with dual fuel tanks teed together in the nerf bars as far forward as I can get them |
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: Ok see ur worrie now was planning a rear bumper to cover the carbs and cone filters .the wheelie problem I planed to solve with dual fuel tanks teed together in the nerf bars as far forward as I can get them Good luck! |
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| Author: | go oddy [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:03 pm ] | |||
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 | |||
Can you modify pipe? This is what I did to my conversion. The one thing I did change, was to remove the tab on the chamber that attached to the Engine. The pipe should, in my humble opinion, only be mounted to the Engine at the header with springs. The vibration will crack the pipe mounts. This I believe is how the Odyssey and Pilot came from the factory. Regards
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| Author: | B S [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
and looking at it again (not drunk this time) do you have the belt in between the axle??? if so that's going to be a giant pain in the ass to change the belt |
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| Author: | go oddy [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
B S wrote: and looking at it again (not drunk this time) do you have the belt in between the axle??? if so that's going to be a giant pain in the ass to change the belt No but it looks like the axle is running through the belt...
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| Author: | B S [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
go oddy wrote: B S wrote: and looking at it again (not drunk this time) do you have the belt in between the axle??? if so that's going to be a giant pain in the ass to change the belt No but it looks like the axle is running through the belt... lol still might be drunk idk lol gotta make the most outta summer
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
Yeah it's not too bad to change I'm gonna get a spare ziptied up to the frame around the axle for a quick change It was relitvely easy to install 2 axle bolts and top shock bolt removed slides right in |
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| Author: | B S [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
I see a stick,rock,branch,ext ruining your day |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
B S wrote: I see a stick,rock,branch,ext ruining your day
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
They won't I sweep quite often lol I planned a full skidplate when it's done |
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| Author: | DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
Is the 700 Engine a triple? |
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| Author: | fl500owner [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
No its a 98 xc700 twin |
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| Author: | DMoneyAllstar [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: fl700 |
fl500owner wrote: No its a 98 xc700 twin Oh hell...I just now realized it's actually sitting in the frame in the first pic. Haa
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