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Author:	old geezer [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:	FL400 ROTAX WIRING HELP
I just purchased a Rotax 583 rave kit from FARR for my FL400 and would appreciate any help or suggestions on how to wire the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), coils, regulator and starter. I would rather not cut up the pilot harness and would like to keep the Rotax wiring separate if possible but I will do what I have to. Maybe a sled harness stripped down to what I need, but what do I need is the question? So come on all you guys that I see have made a similar Rotax conversion, tell me how you did it?

Author:	B S [ Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:54 pm ]
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old geezer wrote: I just purchased a Rotax 583 rave kit from FARR for my FL400 and would appreciate any help or suggestions on how to wire the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), coils, regulator and starter. I would rather not cut up the pilot harness and would like to keep the Rotax wiring separate if possible but I will do what I have to. Maybe a sled harness stripped down to what I need, but what do I need is the question? So come on all you guys that I see have made a similar Rotax conversion, tell me how you did it? well the starter is the easiest part just hook up the wire to the new rotate starter the post some photos of the plug that comes out of the Engine every one is different as for the kill wire you will need a double throw relay to have the original pilot kill switch work the kill wire is the black with a white stripe that is on the small plug of the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) on the fl400 harness

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halorising [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:11 am ]

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Re: FL400 ROTAX WIRING HELP

B S wrote:

old geezer wrote:

I just purchased a Rotax 583 rave kit from FARR for my FL400 and would appreciate any help or suggestions on how to wire the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), coils, regulator and starter. I would rather not cut up the pilot harness and would like to keep the Rotax wiring separate if possible but I will do what I have to. Maybe a sled harness stripped down to what I need, but what do I need is the question? So come on all you guys that I see have made a similar Rotax conversion, tell me how you did it?

well the starter is the easiest part just hook up the wire to the new rotate starter

the post some photos of the plug that comes out of the Engine
every one is different

as for the kill wire you will need a double throw relay to have the original pilot kill switch work

the kill wire is the black with a white stripe that is on the small plug of the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) on the fl400 harness

Simple, remove the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), and coil. roll the wires up and tuck them away. don't cut anything!!! Take the two yellow wires here

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halorising [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:12 am ]

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And plug them in here

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Author:	halorising [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:15 am ]
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I only had red wires so i used them. Pick any two of the three wires. now you only need a ground switch to kill it.

Author:	B S [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:18 am ]
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halorising wrote: I only had red wires so i used them. Pick any two of the three wires. now you only need a ground switch to kill it. You can use a relay for the kill I like the original to still work

Author:	canadian oddy [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:08 am ]
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Sounds like this guy really needs/wants a wiring schematic. He needs everything --- regulator for charging, cd, starter and coil.

Author:	B S [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:28 am ]
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canadian oddy wrote: Sounds like this guy really needs/wants a wiring schematic. He needs everything --- regulator for charging, cd, starter and coil. All he needs to wire is the relay and stator

Author:	B S [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:09 am ]
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I'll make a diagram tomorrow

Author:	old geezer [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:30 am ]
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B S wrote: canadian oddy wrote: Sounds like this guy really needs/wants a wiring schematic. He needs everything --- regulator for charging, cd, starter and coil. All he needs to wire is the relay and stator I don't understand as everyone says you only have to wire the relay and stator but what about the coil and CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition)? A diagram would be a HUGE help and greatly appreciated.

Author:	nitrosport_5 [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:35 pm ]
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The CSI will plug direct to stator and coil. Like I said before it is stand alone. Plug your CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) into the stator, your coil into your CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), and you can run the Engine. The rest of the hookups are not required unless you want a kill switch and charging system

Author:	B S [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:16 pm ]
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canadian oddy wrote: Sounds like this guy really needs/wants a wiring schematic. He needs everything --- regulator for charging, cd, starter and coil. Take a photo of your plug ends off the Engine I'll make you a diagram when I get a few minutes and have access to a printer I can help with the kill wire and relay wiring for sure I have the older wiring on my rotax's

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B S [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:07 pm ]

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Here is the wiring for the kill

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Author:	old geezer [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:02 pm ]
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B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill Thanks now I just have to figure out the charging as I though one wire from the stator was for lighting and one was for charging but I'm getting close. Where would I get the relay and would you have a part number? Thanks again.

Author:	nitrosport_5 [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:15 pm ]
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Any auto parts store has relays. Just tell them you need a standard relay. 5 pin are the ones you want. If it's a 4 pin relay it won't work.

Author:	B S [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:56 am ]
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old geezer wrote: B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill Thanks now I just have to figure out the charging as I though one wire from the stator was for lighting and one was for charging but I'm getting close. Where would I get the relay and would you have a part number? Thanks again. Like I said post me a photo of the plugs and I can help you

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jknarfal [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:22 pm ]

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What about the 350? here's my plug off the rotax

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Author:	old geezer [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:36 pm ]
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halorising wrote: And plug them in here But I can't see what you are plugging it into? Will doing this allow the cooling fan to work also, and what about a charging system?

Author:	old geezer [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:38 pm ]
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B S wrote: old geezer wrote: B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill Thanks now I just have to figure out the charging as I though one wire from the stator was for lighting and one was for charging but I'm getting close. Where would I get the relay and would you have a part number? Thanks again. Like I said post me a photo of the plugs and I can help you I have the motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) on Tuesday so I will then. Thanks

Author:	old geezer [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:41 pm ]
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B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill What are the numbers for by each connection and It appears it has two grounded connections? Thanks

Author:	B S [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:03 pm ]
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old geezer wrote: B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill What are the numbers for by each connection and It appears it has two grounded connections? Thanks the numbers are generally the relay numbers

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old geezer [ Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:09 pm ]

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B S wrote:

old geezer wrote:

B S wrote:

Here is the wiring for the kill

Thanks now I just have to figure out the charging as I though one wire from the stator was for lighting and one was for charging but I'm getting close. Where would I get the relay and would you have a part number?
Thanks again.

Like I said post me a photo of the plugs and I can help you

Okay so here is a pic of my wiring(if it works), with lots of questions like The kill switch is covered but would like to use stock ignition if possible, electric fan, charging system for electric start and lights. It would be nice if I could just hook up Rotax CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) and coil and use the rest of the pilot wiring.......I know I'm asking for to much!!!!
Again, THANKS for your time and help.

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Author:	old geezer [ Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:41 pm ]
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old geezer wrote: B S wrote: old geezer wrote: B S wrote: Here is the wiring for the kill Thanks now I just have to figure out the charging as I though one wire from the stator was for lighting and one was for charging but I'm getting close. Where would I get the relay and would you have a part number? Thanks again. Like I said post me a photo of the plugs and I can help you Okay so here is a pic of my wiring(if it works), with lots of questions like The kill switch is covered but would like to use stock ignition if possible, electric fan, charging system for electric start and lights. It would be nice if I could just hook up Rotax CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) and coil and use the rest of the pilot wiring.......I know I'm asking for to much!!!! Again, THANKS for your time and help. Since the pic isn't great here is what I have; Yellow Yellow/Black Black/yellow(appears to be a solid wire rather than stranded) [b]Black connector[b] Black/white Black/red Black Haven't received the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition), coils and regulator yet so possibly more to come.

Author:	halorising [ Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: FL400 ROTAX WIRING HELP
all the wires you have there plug into the CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) and coil direct. when you get them it will all make sence

Author:	B S [ Wed Dec 24, 2014 4:35 pm ]
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the black 3 wire plug plugs into your CDI (Capacitor Discharge Ignition) and coil

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