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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:31 pm ] | ||
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Got a pipe for a 90's ? 440 MXZ sled that is two into one, the manifold was a perfect fit on my Engine, the body of the pipe is another story it is not even close, the rusted pipe needs to take on the shape of the silver pipe shown in the picture below in order to fit the Pilot
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:31 pm ] | ||
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Another view
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 12:32 pm ] | ||
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Some customizing will be required.
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:36 pm ] | ||
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The first step will be to cut off the ball connection as high up on the manifold as I can get it, it looks like I can go up about 2" this will raise the ground clearance by 2" and give me 2" more pipe going to the right to help with the offset, I made a paper 90 degree elbow I am not sure if the radius is too tight I am awaiting advice from others that are more into pipe building.
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| Author: | pilotdude [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:22 pm ] |
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Hoser wrote... "as you can see the one on Ebay is a stamped pipe and mine is a had formed cone pipe, in general the hand form cone pipes out perform the stamped pipes because of the sharp angle of the cones reflects the return pressure waves better, stamped steel pipes are to reduce production cost and usually do not perform as well" However, If I am correct that pipe that you have there for your 440 project is a stamped pipe right?? So is there really that big of a difference in performance over hand formed, and stamed?? Just a curious mind at work..... PD |
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:10 pm ] |
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Correct all production machines have stamped steel pipes to cut production cost, there is a huge amount of time involved in making a cone pipe, that pipe is a pipe off a 440 MXZ sled, a production unit, the guy I got it from said in his dyno testing on the same Engine as mine only with the newer power valve cylinders it made 90 hp. The pipe wont fit so I will probably end up making a cone pipe using this stamped factory pipe to get my measurements off of, I don't see me cutting and turning the stamped pipe all the times it needs cut, the main body of the pipe also needs angled, I might be able to use the back half of the taper cone part, until I fabricate that first elbow and relocate the ball joint I really wont know... |
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:20 pm ] | ||
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I started to blue print the stamped pipe, diameter measurment every 1" of the length of the pipe, I will have to add in the lenght of the 90 I will fabricate and remove that length from the pipe.
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| Author: | hoser [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:18 pm ] | |||||
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Ok I installed the pipe today didnt come out too bad but I will have to relocate the battery,
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| Author: | pilotdude [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:39 pm ] |
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Nice work so far. One question where do you plan on putting the fuel tank? PD |
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| Author: | hoser [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:44 pm ] |
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Behind and below the radiator, I will probably raise the radiator 3-4" |
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| Author: | Drakman [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 9:54 pm ] |
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When do you figure to be ready to ride?? |
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| Author: | hoser [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 10:34 pm ] |
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I don't know, I put high temp silicone on all the joints so will start testing and adjusting tomorrow, once I know pipe will be ok I will start on gas tank, relocate battery and air box. |
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| Author: | hoser [ Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:04 pm ] |
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Yeah baby that sucker really hauls ASS now... my billy bob pipe was really holding this thing back. Time to move the radiator so I can fabricate a gas tank and find a new home for the battery... |
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| Author: | PilotNut [ Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:58 pm ] |
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Get her done so you can debut it at ECJ!! |
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| Author: | tsutton44 [ Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:52 am ] |
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looking good,should be done for ecj heh 
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| Author: | nitrorapter [ Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:43 pm ] |
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On your 440 project did you use the same cluth system that came with the sled Engine or did you have to use the original type that came with your odyssey so the belt would fit the dirve box? I am doing the same thing to my odyssey. I came across a 440 polaris snowmobile Engine and I just want to see how you ended up hooking every thing up. |
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| Author: | hoser [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:58 pm ] |
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I used the clutches and belt I was using with the Pilot egine |
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| Author: | nitrorapter [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | clutch set up on a 440cc |
Sinced you used the same clutch and dirven pully from your pilot, do you think the set up off of the FL250 would fit on a 440cc polaris Engine and work correctly? Or do you think I should try something different, like maybe the set up off of a Pilot like your system. That is if the clutch and dirven pulley would fit on my new Engine and the gear reduction case of my 250. Do you have any other suggestions? |
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| Author: | hoser [ Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:34 am ] |
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You would not want to use the stock Honda drive clutch the driven would probably be ok if it is in good condition and adjusted for the belt width of what ever drive clutch you choose to use. |
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| Author: | nitrorapter [ Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:15 am ] |
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Hey Hoser, Thanks for all the advice on my project. This type of clutch system is kind of new to me. Is there a web site that shows more information on exactly how this clutch system works, and how driven pully can be adjusted for different belts? Thanks again for your help. By the way, how fast does you pilot go with the 440cc Engine you put on it? |
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| Author: | Lee [ Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:44 am ] |
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