When I had my saddle shop I ALWAYS STOOD BEHIND my work, with a SATISFACTION GAUREENTY!!! If any one had a problem I bent over backwards to insure I had done everything possible to make my customer happy with his purchase.

Why??? One bad word of dis-satisfaction couldn't be bought back with 1000 positive remarks!!
Steve can only post some pics of stuff he installed in michigan??? he has pictures on his site while this was being installed??? Duh He didn't need help cause you were there with him maybe???

Carl, bugcrap's bro-in-law who lives in MI told me when I wet to Silver Lake, that you offered him a kit AT A HUGE DISCOUNT he didn't want nothing to do with it!!!
I met him at a truck stop by accident... your own nieghbors won't touch this crap???

Hoodlum, Atvnut and someone named Jeff Davis are all I can remember complimenting this kit??? Anyone else???

I do have the tape and it is seriously a train wreck-instructional video-LOL

I have recently purchased a LT kit for 1 of my Pilots and this kit came with a detailed and I mean detailed color coordinated instructional installation kit with it, pre-set off a Pilot frame with many,many options-I will test and post this kit and I stand by it for sure-It was significantly cheaper than IWANTYOURMONEY.COM and every step of the making off it was shown via email to me, Steve wouldn't and can't do that at all.He can't show you the making of it cause I would betya he doesn't even fab them-just like his CYLINDER BORES AND EXHAUST BRIDGE RELIEF he supposedly does-At least Hoser shows in his motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) work via the email, YOUTUBE does Steve??Does STEVE do Engine work for guys for basicly nothing-I haven't see it-

Atvnut IS Jeff Davis so that takes your compliments down to TWO

I was PM'ed a email for this jeff by a member here and was told Jeff Davis could help... I am sorry I never had the chance to do this as I was working on the kids bike...

ATVNUT-lol what ever happened to his SLED motor (( Internal Combustion Engine ? )) KIT he advertised all over Hosers old board?Havent heard a peep out of him, I betya sales are at an all time high-LMAO-He sure did chase Lude out of the POOA world didnt he-the darkside turns on there own!!!!when theres cashola to be had-

My sled conversion pilot that I just finished didn't come close to his $2,000 kit price. Mine even charges the battery!!

pix and details please!

Right but the TWO mutts (lude and atvmutt) are selling kits for the guys that cant fabricate and just want a bolt in kit

Your 2k include the Engine?

I never put a price on my conversion it was mostly my time and metal I had laying round the shop, I suppose I could put a LIEwire mentality price on it and factor in my margin, markup bla bla bla and say it cost me 12k to install, R&D is not cheap you know, heck I put 15 minutes into this reply and its about my sled Engine conversion so add another 25 bux to the price

I've probably got 2K into the entire machine, buggy and all. This was the $1000 pilot that brooks and I pulled out of a barn a few years ago. I took over the project this past fall and it is now a running machine. I still have some odds and ends to tie up, but it is all there. I'll grab some pics tommorrow, (finally fixed the camera) and start a new thread on it.

Well I got inspired to do some work on this beast once again... I started out taking lots (67) pics as I removed the lower ball joints that are bent. I am sure the darkside idiots will claim that I doctored these as the have before Don't really care what the no ridding bunch of losers think... I wonder if they are jealous because of the amount of ride time I got compared to there 5 minute races once a month?
First I concentrated on getting good pic's of where every thing is as is... I put my sand tires on the front because they are the stock rims and the rib makes it easy to measure the toe setting. I felt there wasn't any sense in cutting my lawyer links as suggested by Lee until I got the lower ball joints replaced. I found out the parts are from a 79-86 ford pickup truck... I ordered the new pieces and ball boots today. I noticed the passenger side balls were screwed in more than the other side... but they were both vertical... it looks like the driver side arms aren't finished the same as the passenger...
I also measured my "travel" which was sold/advertised as 12 inches... of course I am sure I am measuring the wrong place but I decided to measure the spindle center at full droop with shock on to the highest possible position with the shock removed... only about 7 inches??? where do the experts like chucklenuts at aftershot motorspurts measure the travel from???

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I understand so far what the problems are. So they main problem now is you have bad bumpsteer? So at full compression your wheels toe out? Then the geometry of your arms is off. So when you turn to the left or right your wheel locks on the side you turn too. You will need to reconfigure your steering assembly so the left and right have equal throw unless the system will allow you to put in a stop on it. You will notice on the stock machine the wheel on the side you turn to turns more then the otherside. This is a pain in the ass to fix but it can be done. If you notice mostly all longtravel big cars run the rods in front of the spindal not behind.

Also with doing a longtravel to minimize bumpsteer the tierod should be in line with your a-arms and its way off in your pics. I take it your tierod isnt the same length as your arms so as it uptravels it shortens so your point of worst toe out is probably when the spindle is flush with or the same level as the frame.

Your just now measuring the travel?

I would measure the travel from the center of the spindle with the shock on, full droop to full bump, with the 350 on jack stands remove the tire measure from the center of the spindle nut to the ground then put a jack under the brake drum and jack the drum up until the shock bottoms out,then measure to the spindle again, you might need to lash the front of the buggy down when jacking it up to get full compression.

Try this let us know what the numbers are.

Measuring with the shock off is a worthless number you need to know the actual usable travel.

Yes it is way toed out on full compression... (see pic's with buggy strapped to trailer earlier in thread...

OK here is what I have so far... I installed new ball joints, and to get the hub to be level vertically I had to play with the threading... where the arrows are is the difference in the gap... I am wondering if I got one of these infamous blem kits I just learned about??? http://www.minibuggy.net/modules.php?na ... 5019#65019

What I am trying to figure out is why does one side line up different from the other side? would my frame be wongo? would the a-arms be wongo'ed as seen in my earlier pic's when I first installed this I saw this???

next problem I came across is the fact that now the spindle hits the a-arms at full turn... I had room to shorten the steer stops by taking in a thread or two, but even this would result in the spindle hitting the a-arm... only cure I can see is to cut the bottom of the tie rod end and hope it doesn't Back out with locktite in it. I have already seen how just traveling on my air ride trailer how this would back out of the nut before I installed the nut behind it??? Or maybe I should just back the ball joints out 1/2 inch each side to avoid hitting this???

I am guessing I'll have to start from scratch and back the ball joints out so this clears... I am sure these will bend again if I do that!!!

Mudbogger's kit was a blem too.

You can tell moskito likes playing the heavy LMAO Better watch out he might beat you with his purse...
How come he is the only moderator that has a problem with you?

"Funny" how you get the definition of blem but atvmutt has not post what the blem is.... its almost gone "priceless"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J2uvjKh3dA

Sorry about the poor quality in the middle, but I have missed placed my newer camera...

Wow that sux now what?

You call ATVmutt or a lawyer?

You get a chance to measure the actual suspension travel with the shock on?